I think many use that phrase as a discussion ender because they really don’t understand the issue at all to begin with. How dotted the map of your journeyings, how many-colored the stones that have paved your path, how varied and blended the hues that compose the picture of your life! And I kept thinking about those people. The info continues, all consume it hoping that it ends and men of integrity will come forth, however, it is getting difficult to continue seeing this stuff and knowing…. I now will highlight an aspect of this scandalous story concerning Ravi Zacharias’ sexual misconduct that has gone largely unnoticed. Too bad the New Calvinists seem to be really bad at math, because planting so many new churches hasn’t stemmed the huge numbers of people leaving the SBC. Besides, it is not surprising that our eyes should be blinded by intense light, so that we cannot certainly judge how God wishes all to be saved, and yet has devoted all the reprobate to eternal destruction, and wishes them to perish. View Entire Resource Library This month, RZIM's global team of speakers will engage with millions online on almost every continent, addressing the pressing need for new digital resources to answer the most urgent questions in this time of social distancing. Can you tell us a little bit about that space—how it's been characterized, how influential it has been, and the ways Ravi fit into it? In the US, Orthodoxy developed as a means to serve the needs of migrants, so it ended up being fractured along ethnic lines. We leading males should adopt Royal Guardsmen wigs to signal our distinctives. I figure many of them are starving out during the pandemic. Image: YouTube screenshot. | RZIM A memorial service honoring the life of Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias will be livestreamed on Facebook and YouTube on Friday with tributes from Passion Movement founder Louie Giglio, Lecrae, Tim Tebow and Vice President Mike Pence. Hardcover. ++++++++++++. I never was a fan of Ravi Zacharias. Jacob: You are of the enemy tribe even if no other tribe will have you. Church Discipline There was some of that in his talks, where he would refer frequently to Hinduism and world religions in a way that previous apologists and popular apologists like the Josh McDowell's wouldn't quite do. One woman told me that he masturbated in front of her more than 50 times over several years. A difference is the details about the spas. (Screenshot/YouTube: Ravi Zacharias International Ministries) Comments Adam Barnes General Assignment Reporter. There is nothing in God, nothing in His dealings, nothing in His providences, but what is on the side of His people. Our picks for the books most likely to shape evangelical life, thought, and culture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2HH7J-Sx80. Why were you frequenting the establishment? To share this article with your friends, use any of the social share buttons on our site, or simply copy the link below. Max, . As Jesus said in His time, Woe to the religious elite who sound good (words, apologists) but live despicable predatory lives, until consequently finding millstones around their necks, to be buried in the deepest sea for Eternity. Yeah, I’ve had people throw proof texts at me and tell me I don’t know the Bible. If any one again objects—this is making God act with duplicity, the answer is ready, that God always wishes the same thing, though by different ways, and in a manner inscrutable to us. prodinov: pursuing a career in various areas of massage, such as pediatrics, medical massage, deep tissue, etc. And if that doesn't make us more attentive to and more responsive to both real victims in the world and suspicious of the ways that we justify ourselves and the people that we hold up, then, to me, that feels like a betrayal of the gospel that we need to promote and proclaim. “Reformed” is also a very squishy word because it can mean anything from 5-point Calvinsm to every single protestant denomination. But even that might not even be enough to lose salvation. Did Sproul ever look very happy to you? Said he had a Ph.D. and we doubt he graduated from HS. Why do you even bother to comment at all and to belittle the post with your ridiculous, childish, and useless charade??? Hyper Calvinism: Jesus saved a select few. Can you talk more about that and the effect it had on the women? Most Massage Therapist take their career very serious. This blog has a long history of humor, as well as sharing memories, recipes, petty gripes, anecdotes, song lyrics, etc. SBC, as a whole, used to focus on spreading the Gospel. I am sorry but the 2 graduates of Atlanta School of Massage have asked me to also add a few notes. Zacharias owned two day spas, where people would go to get massages, facials, or pedicures, in a strip mall in Johns Creek, Georgia, which is a pretty rich northeast suburb of Atlanta. However, it is certainly a possibility given our proclivity for inconsistency.”, https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justin-taylor/sproul-on-four-point-calvinism/. What would evil is if he then pressured them in any way to provide sex. With Hunt at the helm, they gain confidence that they too can learn to be a six-figure megachurch pastor in an oversaturated megachurch market. It can be very refreshing. Until “Gospel” becomes like “Smurf” or “Marclar” — a meaningless all-purpose adjective used everywhere. I used to post occasionally, but honestly, the 1 shenanigans turned me off so much that I quit reading for awhile. The number one priority I see happening is that people are looking for an environment that they like. This was a business off to the side and not as a direct result of traveling and speaking internationally. Going into any church building by itself will not save you no matter how great the worship, teaching or bible emphasis is. They shut down the restaurant because of what they found and arrested a bunch of the massage therapists and a manager, but not the owners. Many Woodstock members challenged Hunt and were escorted from the church. The Holy Spirit is The Teacher, not your pastor or local denomination theologians. Anonymous Baptist: owning massage parlors. We must be led by that. Back in the 1960s the late Professor William Barclay taught theology in this way. Did he convince others this was a part of his culture? I used to help people start online communities, as a hobby. Outside of Lutheran circles (I am Lutheran) Lutherans are considered a “form of reformed but not Reformed.”. Additionally, according to Hunt’s Twitter account, he is now Pastor Emeritus of FBC Woodstock. I had already told her where I had gone that day, and she asked if I got a massage. A few hours later, I was badly dehydrated and a family member took me to an urgent care. +++++++++++++++++. Took a lot of effort to manipulate others to get it all in place. One with credentials, there was an issue where titles claimed and advertised, specifically doctorates and teaching positions, were misstated or overstated. (Anyone remember the Eighties Pat Benatar song, “Stop Using Sex as a Weapon?” That holds for the other S-word, too — SCRIPTURE(TM).). CTWeekly delivers the best content from ChristianityToday.com to your inbox each week. With what we now know, I suggest what Ravi Zacharias was involved in may be classified as sex-trafficking. This is what they wrote to me for a more India centric view: “Johnny Hunt recommended Steve Flockhart to our old church in West Palm Beach. People run in panic from anything that remotely looks Catholic, but they will put up with gimmicky shows you see in mega churches. $19.83. R2: As far as Hunt and NAMB, he worked with the New Calvinists to restructure it toward church planting back in 2008. I will say that my own preacher doesn’t always wear a tie. I did find the setting a bit crowded all in one room, but naively, I thought that they had to be licensed. YouTube channel for Ravi Zacharias International Ministries videos and other related media. That remark was, for me, the end of any interest in anything else the man might say. I’ve wondered about the Eastern Orthodox church. ++++++++++++++++, huh….. that much to “cast vision” and “stir passion”…, (this really is the silliest religion that ever was), New word of prophecy for PASTOR Johnny Hunt, by way of Warren Zevon: Although, therefore, God’s will is simple, yet great variety is involved in it, as far as our senses are concerned. Money and fame went to his head. Tina: I’ve driven past First Baptist Woodstock and that place looks HUGE! Sounds O.K. If any one should object—then there is no election of God, by which he has predestinated a fixed number to salvation, the answer is at hand: the Prophet does not here speak of God’s secret counsel, but only recalls miserable men from despair, that they may apprehend the hope of pardon, and repent and embrace the offered salvation. He did very little work in India. But, I do not take Steve’s comments as sarcastic… just a little light heartiness in middle of VERY depressing/upsetting info. But I noticed that many of those leaders wanted to pander to their friends, no matter how badly they were behaving. Were there ever any? A good church, regardless of style, will point you to Jesus and then get the hell out of the way! Repent and live!” (Ezekiel 18:32). Well defined church attendees with few options in the early days, thus, growth, thus programs, thus success for Hunt. Given RZ has LIED about his academic credentials, with in my world would get you FIRED, I believe the stuff about women from the “other side”, which means his behavior is much worse than “creepy”.. Nuttshell: Course he went to Hunt’s church so would defend him. There are a lot of Christian leaders who went to their grave having done stuff like this and victims who went to their graves never having had the chance to get some healing and thinking that a lot of people just didn't care. There are differences: see the Primitive Baptist Universalists, the Cumberland Presbyterian Church new catechism, etc. Bravo. Hunt’s amazing church growth (sarcasm) can easily point to location. Oh, it is Christ! Baughman’s review of Razi’s 2 locations indicate that those being flown in could not in any way be certified or licensed to practice in the US. Additionally, in what appears to perhaps have been a “package deal,” Jim Law was hired by NAMB as Executive Director of NAMB’s  Evangelism and Leadership Group. I remember many years ago going to a “High Church” and very much appreciated the liturgy and all the symbolism… in fact, it was clearly more “Biblical” than listening to many of these “preacher boys”…. It seems to me that RZ really took time and effort to think this plan out. Our old church, we are no longer members, gave him roughly 80K to get rid of him. Especially now after people took a long break from them and probably realized they weren’t getting much out of them. might as well be mary kay cosmetics. Please, I pray, tell me that you are not really a “doctor” of some type or other. Noe even when they quote the exact same chapters and verses for Divine justification? Prayers, Bible verses, and reference to the ‘City of God’ set the stage for the inauguration of a Catholic president. If you make uncle Kevin look good, by being in an unconventional demographic, it can be a few hundred grand.” They are having loads of problems. It all depends on how generous God is. Daniel Sillman: It has to mean something about accountability. Jeffrey J Chalmers: I remember “sword drills”! It would be interesting to know the salaries of Hunt and Law, salaries paid through the generous donations of SBC church members. I live in a “happy inconsistency” that I can do experiments that show electrons are particles, and then do an experiment that shows electrons have “wave like” properties ( it is actually more accurate to say they have properties that are best described as a probability distribution … not a single particle) … PS it is not very hard to go in the lab and do this…, Herein lies the true arrogance of many of theses theologians, or pseudo theologian…. Very much parallels how Calvinistas are described here at TWW. So he traveled the world—his ministry has offices in 16 or 17 countries now—and he really traveled the world, both engaging nonbelievers about the reasonableness of faith and the philosophical foundations, and teaching many Christians to do that as well. People like Ravi give faith and massage therapists a bad name. 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