He then kicked his head off and crushed it. suppressed 17 pushed Goku to ssb and fought on par with ssb Goku, eventhough we don't know how much either held back it was pretty obvious that 17 wasn't taking that fight as seriously as Goku was not to mention Dende stated 17 would be terrifying as an ennemy and Goku agreed after he fought him. by Saturnine » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:29 pm, Post by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:31 pm, Post Trunks was wrong. Speed: Omnipresent+ (Via scaling to Mystic Gogito.) After gathering the Dragon Balls in “One More Wish,” Krillin asked Shenron to … Defeated Mystic Gogito, who was stated to be 100,000-200,000x omnipotent, just by park ranging for one attosecond.) Android 17 did not like being controlled by Dr. Gero, so when he awakened 17 and 18 to fight the Z Fighters, 17 took Dr. Gero's remote and crushed it. I'd give the edge to 17 for his barrier and infinite stamina. by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:31 pm, Post Goku was leagues stronger than Vegeta when he came back to earth, and didn’t stop training meaning his power continued increasing and was severely cut when he was fighting 19. At a younger age, Lazuli was captured by Dr. Gero and remodeled into android 18. No matter how many clones SSR Black creates, that will not beat 17 as he has infinite stamina and 17 can counter his Sythe with his barrier. Also, Gero has to account for Kaioken as well, and team uups from all the Z-Warriors. So during the Android saga of DBZ, Androids 17 and 18 handily wipe the floor with Vegeta and Trunks and Android 19 obviously won in its skirmish with Goku, but that is no evidence that Android 17 and 18 were stronger than Goku. Based on this, it can be assessed that Android 18 is stronger than an untrained Super Saiyan but weaker than a mastered one, she's slightly stronger than Android 17, but is substantially weaker than Android 16, Imperfect Cell post human absorption or any Super Saiyan transformation beyond the first. Originally, he wore an orange bandanna around his neck. I hope 17 will last much and that he will fight at full power a strong enemy. It depends if that episode is his true power or TOEI making him look cool. by Slaythe » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:07 pm, Post SSB Goku > / = Android 17 >>> SSJ Goku = ritually powered up Goku (vs Beerus) >>>>> SSJ Vegetto >>> Buuhan >> Super Buu >>> Mr. Buu. Modified by Hujio. Overview. Though not as strong as Goku or Vegeta, Android 17 survived the final battle with Jiren and became the last man standing when it was all over. 17 sports the curtain hairstyle, while 18 has a slick Rachel.They were conceived by Toriyama around that time period, after all. by Potara_Vegetto » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:26 pm, Post He makes his first animated appearance in "Nightmare Comes True", the 133rd episode of Dragon Ball Z, which premiered on April 8, 1992. This seems impossible, though, because Trunks was a baby when 17 was activated and never saw him. Android 17 on the other hand is definitely stronger than SSJG Goku but not stronger than SSJB Goku. That was absolute Insane. Or as this list shows, 26th strongest in the Dragon Ball world. He wasn't awake when 17 said he was greatly holding back on Future Gohan and not even using half his power. Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode. Considering Goku pulled out SSJB to fight him, yeah, I'd place Android about a few notched above SSJ3 Goku. Moderators: Kanzenshuu Staff, General Help, Post When Goku and Vegeta were on Namek, in their base forms, Goku was several times stronger than Vegeta. They arent weaker. by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:36 pm, Post With great force! Bulma suggests summoning Shenron to find the remaining Super Dragon Balls, but even his power is not enough. Android 17's brief cameo in the Kid Buu Saga. by HybridSaiyan » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:22 pm, Post It can be safely stated that Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, despite Akira Toriyama's attempts at ushering in the era of Goku's son, Gohan, midway through Dragon Ball Z. Forum Rules. vs. Vegeta (Super Saiyan) / Vegeta "You're still just as fun as ever." Including the self-proclaimed strongest in the world. 18 fought him and soon gained the advantage, so Trunks jumped into the battle. He has straight shoulder-length black hair that parts above his forehead, thin eyebrows, and narrow blue eyes. HybridSaiyan wrote: Android 17 is stronger than Buuhan lmao. ", the 349thchapter of the Dragon Ball manga, issued on March 10, 1992. Son Goku and His Friends Return! Most underrated feat of the ToP. ; Adaptational Badass: In the manga, neither of them have power level detectors, although 18 does manage to learn how to sense ki by Yo! How is SSG Goku clearing GT. Gohan is literally stated in the manga to be the strongest fighter on Earth after Goku and Vegeta. That was when Android 17 fought Goku, specifically in episode 86, and forced Goku into turning into Super Saiyan blue. He and Gohan are probably close in strength, but Android 17's barriers and infinite energy would give him the immediate advantage if the two were ever forced to go up against one another. So my hypothesis is this: Goku, knowing that a threat stronger than anything he’d ever faced before, stronger than super saiyan trunks, needed to get way stronger than he was, was probably as strong as androids 17 and 18 but was so strongly afflicted by the heart virus that he was as weak as Vegeta. GangOrca. Android 17 went on to become the breakout star of the Tournament of Power, outlasting fighters like Gohan, Caulifla, Hit, Top, and more. '90s Hair: Both Androids have them. Duuh ?! Android 17 on the other hand is definitely stronger than SSJG Goku but not stronger than SSJB Goku. by precita » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:16 pm, Post In my list I have 17 as a 1,000 and Full Power Blue Goku at 5,000 though I might have to revisit it later as the events of the ToP unfold. by pacz360 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:55 pm. What do you guys think? 2. With all that said, we have nothing to measure Goku’s Pre heart virus strength to and it leaves to the imagination that Vegeta was at least equal to him in strength, but based on the show, Vegeta only seemed as strong as Goku when Goku first got back to earth, stronger than trunks but nothing else. Goku says that he didn't intend to use his Blue form against him, and even using his Blue form (not at full power, of course), 17 wasn't at 100%, "First I whip it out! The SSB Goku 17 fought is stronger than SSR Black cause it's passed some time since FT arc and 17 became even more powerful during ToP. Re: Android 17 stronger than DBS Goku SS3. Even worse, Vegeta’s Super Saiyan is actually stronger than Goku’s at this point in the story. Until...! When Goku and Vegeta were on Namek, in their base forms, Goku was several times stronger than Vegeta. If you look through your manga collection, be sure to check out Dragon Ball and its 367th chapter. This points to the likelihood that Goku was insanely stronger than he was when he beat Freiza on Namek. ProLight Style by Ian Bradley. vs. Vegeta (Super Saiyan) "Maybe I'm a little more than you can handle now." Rules: android 17 and super 17 scale to the dbz anime as the manga and kai are not allowed here. Android 17 (人造人間17号, Jinzōningen Jū Nana) is a fictional character in the Dragon Ball franchise . Every angle...! The Captain Is Someone Stronger Than Goku. Android 17 is a fair-skinned young man with a similar appearance to his fraternal twin sister. the part in future android 17 page in the power section where it say's "Trunks states to the Z Fighters that the androids he knows in his time, while much stronger than him, are not nearly as strong as the ones released in the main timeline." Now, 19 beat him because Goku was literally having essentially a heart attack and 19 used methods that absorbed his energy and boosted his own power proportional to the energy absorbed, which is understandably bad during a heart attack from a virus. Vegeta was stronger than the base form of Android 13, 14, and 15. In the end... We are all satisfied... And you are set free...!" So during the Android saga of DBZ, Androids 17 and 18 handily wipe the floor with Vegeta and Trunks and Android 19 obviously won in its skirmish with Goku, but that is no evidence that Android 17 and 18 were stronger than Goku. by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:40 pm, Post He is average in height with a slim frame and lean-built. Android 18 is very likely on the same level as Piccolo or maybe slightly stronger or weaker. by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:42 pm, Post 1. It penetrates! He wears a short sleeve black shirt with t… It would appear that Vegeta is on par, if not above Goku’s own strength, but there is no evidence to support this as even with the heart virus afflicting him, Goku was wiping the fooor with Android 19. So enter Vegeta, who was not only weaker than Goku on Namek, but upon the return of Freiza to earth, was still significantly weaker than Freiza so much so that he feared for his life. After 4 years of training, Vegeta was able to unlock the super Saiyan transformation just in time to save Goku and destroy 19. With great strength...! Common among Dr. Gero's androids, 17 has a gold hoop earring on each ear. Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited, Privacy by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:50 pm, Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:51 pm, Post by LowRyder2005 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:17 pm, Post Vegeta followed them and challenged them to a battle. ... and 17 is stronger than that. vs. Piccolo 3. by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:04 pm, Post vs. Goku (Super Saiyan) / Goku "You more than live up to your title, Saiyan prince." But when it came to the final boss, he didn’t stand a chance. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Which means Trunks (no stronger than Gohan) never saw what they were really capable of and is just ignorant. I meant the actual Goku SS3 Android 18 Is likely above SSJ3 Goku too. by HybridSaiyan » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:48 pm, Post by Lapislettuce » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:22 pm, Post To be able to pull off a feat like that Goku has to be at least twice as strong as the max force Trunks could put into his sword strikes with just his fingers to prevent them from getting sliced. Goku survived his fight with Freiza and should have gotten a significant boost from that battle and got even stronger on Yardrat, so much that when SSJ Trunks threw a flurry of sword strikes at him, he could stop each one with one finger. It's not unreasonable to think the computer was boosting Android 17/18 while they were in stasis. | This variant of Android #17 is from when the Z-Warriors first met the Android trio in Goku’s Assassin.. By EX standards, he is a mediocre Melee Fighter, albeit one with a powerful Main Ability and Cover, which not many EX Fighters have access to.. Lastly, his Special Move is teachable to Shallot at Friendship Level 2 so if nothing else, he’s worth the grind for that. | Goku and Vegeta have budding families of their own just like Android 18. Super Android 13 wrecks the entire Z-Fighters squad and leaves them all on the brink of perishing. Android 17 (Japanese: 人造人間17号, Hepburn: Jinzōningen Jū Nana Gō, lit. I... ram it in! 16 days ago. He makes his debut in "The Androids Awake! "You're strong. Despite the tournament's decisive result, Android 17 is a few notches below the likes of Goku, Toppo, Golden Frieza, or Jiren. After awakening 16, 17 and 18 left with him. As Dr. Gero tried to stop 17 and 18 from activating Android 16, 17 impaled Dr. Gero with his hand. Definitely a lot stronger than Doctor Gero said you'd be." 4 Frieza There's no question that Frieza is several times stronger than Gohan. Out of all the plot twists that Dragon Ball Super brought, one of the biggest might be the inclusion of Future Mai as a… I personally thin 17 is stronger than Ultimate Gohan. Vegeta succeeds where Goku fails, destroying Android 19 piece by piece. So, yes Android can train to get stronger. Care to explain us again how can #17 be stronger than Gohan if the same writer who wrote the "feat" you're basing your statement on goes - in both cases -. As they prepare for the upcoming match, Beerus reveals there's a fighter stronger than Goku who's going to join the team! I think 17 is probably a little above SSJ2 level, but below SSJ3/Super Buu. ~Dante~. Trunks was about even in strength with the alternate 17 and 18 when he first went to the past and way stronger than mecha freiza in the original timeline. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. If beating down SSJ Goku isn't enough of a feat for Android 17 to be above Buu, there's also him fighting evenly with SSB Goku with minimal struggle while only using a portion of his power. Android 17 is far stronger than Superman (N O L I M I T S M A N) who is a full tier above SCP-3812 who exists 'outside of fiction' and is stated to effortlessly erase Suggsverse. Just because Vegeta defeated pathetic Toppo that doesn't mean he is becoming stronger than Goku, Toppo's best feat is defeating 17 which SSB KK Goku already showed that he is much stronger than 17 as well when he overpowered U2's black hole when 17 couldn't even get up. Terms Android 17 is the only Android of the trio never to meet Goku (both in the manga and anime unless one counts Super 17). In Dragon Ball GT, Trunks recognizes Android 17 when he attacks him. by emperior » Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:12 pm, Post Then I thrust it! Kid Buu Saga, while Goku gathers energy for a Spirit Bomb, in an effort to defeat Kid Buu.Android 17, apparently a vagabond in a mountainous region, is walking down a forest trail when he encounters two hunters passing through. by Potara_Vegetto » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:19 pm, Post His super finishing move in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is identical to what his and 18's future counterparts do to Future Gohan to kill him. SSj3 is nothing next to Blue, like come the hell on. by Lord Beerus » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:38 pm, Post As it turns out, Android 17 is just a bit stronger than his sister cares to admit. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. And, for those curious, the man behind Dragon Ball has detailed a few key points about Android 17 … 17 raises his rifle to trick the two into raising their hands, unaware that they are supplying Goku with their energy. 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